D*mn Puppy Pads!! Help me break the habit!?

D*mn Puppy Pads!! Help me break the habit!?
I brought my two westie pups home in November . To help the housebreaking process, I put pads down as soon as I realized that they thought my area rugs were really big pee pads.

Recently I decided to break the habit of peeing in the house because I am killing a forest with all the paper towels I am using to clean up the piss on my floor. When I remove the pads they still pee in the same spot.

I take them out in the morning. They do their business and then we come inside and I take a shower. While I am in the shower they seem to muster up some more pee and poop and leave me gifts to clean up, which adds joy to the already fun morning process.

If I leave them in their crate 98% of the time they can hold it. If I allow them to be outside the crate when I am not home they pee/poo on the floor.

How can I break them of this habit? Ive used the "guaranteed" pet cleaner and I have a dog walker during the day...

PLEASE HELP! I cant bear to smell pee in my house anymore!
These arent my first dogs - I didnt have this problem before and I never used the pads. Also, these girls can be outside ALL DAY LONG and will still come in the house and pee as soon as they get home! :(
Wow Monica, a genius such as yourself should practice reading better. Did you miss the part where I said they could be out ALL DAY LONG and still pee in the house?? Or how about when I wrote that this isnt my first dog, just the first time I have had this problem? Wow thanks for your profound advice!


Answers:

IDAHOCUTIE:  I have 2 dogs that did the exact same thing...or if i have one of those hotel floor towels down...they urinate on it! There is a way to stop this spray a mixture of water and apple cider vinegar on the carpet or floor where they are going. some pups are stubborn, and will continue to do it. You can always use doggie diapers on them while they are indoors! This is what my dad had to do with his silky terrier!
2008-04-24 04:40:32
Penel T:  this is what i did to stop my dog doing is bussiness in the pool area, on the concrete and on his mat. i simply poured vinegar on the concrete and he never did it again. or when he was in the so called "pooping position", i picked him up and put him where i wanted him to do it. i then rewarded him
2008-04-24 04:53:39
Chosen Answer
Monica:  You probably should have took the TIME to potty train them the right way. Not the lazy way by putting down pee pads.

EDIT: Yes, I read the question.

You said.....("brought my two westie pups home in November . To help the housebreaking process, I put pads down as soon as I realized that they thought my area rugs were really big pee pads.

Recently I decided to break the habit of peeing in the house because I am killing a forest with all the paper towels.")

This tells me that you decided to take th easy way out and use pee pads rather then actually train them to go outside. It does not matter if they are outside all day long. You still did not potty train them to go outside and not in the house. If your dogs were house trained then they would not be going potty in the house.

You taught them it is ok to pee in the house, so your pets think it is still ok for them to do that. Simple as that.
2008-04-24 04:56:32
allycmw:  Do an internet search on crate training. You cannot use the crate once in a while, it must be used consistently, and you must be consistent in when an dhow often you take them out. Give them lots of praise when they get it right, and stick to a schedule! Pee pads are a waster of time - you're basically housetraining them twice. Get rid of them all together; they only encourage your dogs to pee inside. Good luck
2008-04-24 05:09:56
Ista:  Sounds like they are associating where to potty with that particular place. Save your rugs, put the pads back down. Let them get used to the feel of the pads again. Then, every couple of days, when you change the pads, move them a few feet closer towards the door, and finally out it. If they aren't too firmly attached to that place, they should be able to follow the pad.

My female chihuahua refused to go outside when she was little bitty. She was determined to potty at the end of the hall. I covered that area in piddlepads until she got used to the feel, and then slowly cut the number of pads down to one, and then moved that sucker towards my males emergency pad in the bathroom corner. It worked. Was a pain for a couple of weeks, but did work. We now have 1 piddlepad in the bathroom for bad weather or if we aren't home, and she also goes outside, but she does not go in the hallway anymore.

I wouldn't move it more than 2-3 feet every couple of days, as you don't want them to get confused and go back to the spot they are comfortable with.

Good luck!
2008-04-24 05:10:07
mrsjimmorrison67:  put her on a schedule, they are EVERYTHING to dogs, especially puppies. Make sure she eats/drinks/goes out/sleeps at the same time everyday!

Try crate training her, to do this find a crate that is just enough room for her to stand up/turn around/ and lay down. Dogs don't like to be in their own mess, but if the crate is too big she will use one end to pee in. Also never use the crate as a form of punishment, you want this to be her own den.

Also keep her on a leash in the house and attach it to you, so you know when she is about to go and you can scold her and take her out immediately.

Also make sure you don't give her any food/water within 2 hours of bedtime this will help her sleep through the night without accidents...

Also small dogs have small bladders make sure she isn't alone for more than 3-4 hours if THAT! and when you are gone remember to keep her in the crate!

Natures Miracle is awesome with the smell both for you and the dogs won't smell it either so they won't go in that spot again!!

Hope this helps!!
2008-04-24 07:01:24